Banned by SunDust

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coolkillz

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[font=Monaco, Consolas, Courier, monospace]Minecraft Username: coolkillz[/font]
[font=Monaco, Consolas, Courier, monospace]Your Ban report link: http://craftblock.me/forum/thread-5277.html[/font]
[font=Monaco, Consolas, Courier, monospace]Server banned from: craftblock.me[/font]
[font=Monaco, Consolas, Courier, monospace]Reason of ban: Greifing[/font]
[font=Monaco, Consolas, Courier, monospace]Who banned you?: _SunDust_[/font]
[font=Monaco, Consolas, Courier, monospace]Why should you be unbanned?: The reason I should be unbanned is because I really like this server. SunDust banned for permanent which is overall pretty bad. I want to play and watch this server grow. I hardly believe I was griefing since I just built a house. Also, mods could destroy blocks, so can players.[/font]
[font=Monaco, Consolas, Courier, monospace]Any ways, I really want to be back on the server, since it was really y the first server I had enjoyed.[/font]
 

Narbula

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coolkillz said:
Why should you be unbanned?: The reason I should be unbanned is because I really like this server.
That's not really a reason. Maybe you should rethink of how you got banned and how it all played out. Do you see your fault? Do you see how you could have fixed it?
 

_SunDust_

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Based on this appeal here....

In regards to the ban, what do you admit to doing?:

If its not griefing (170+ blocks given in the report), as you said in your words "hardly believe" What are you admitting to doing wrong then?
 

coolkillz

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Ok, I greifed, but I didn't know that I was greifing, I'm really sorry.
You should un ban me because: I was being stupid and dumb, I promise I won't do this ever again, my apologies.
I won't do It again and I will act better, and I will listen to mods more.
Sorry.
 

_SunDust_

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Ok so you admit to griefing...great now were getting somewhere.
Youre also sorry for doing that.
Also you say you wont do it again...good..good and good. You've apologised to me.

The area where you built a dirt shack then mined my clay blocks and stone beneath it, we'll you cant fix it to how it was before you touched it as I've already rolled it back.

So.. In future, if you do break it, fix it. And fix it to how it was before you touched it.
If you build where you are not allowed go, remove it, and leave the place as you found it.

Can you forgive those who you felt may have wronged you? Like me for instance. I do apologise for watching you act like a wild tiger in narbs jail. And others watching as well.
 

coolkillz

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I forgive you if you forgive me.
Now, can you please un-ban me, I really want to play on this server, and be friends with you.
So, are you going un ban me, since you forgive me and I forgive you?

 

_SunDust_

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No.....no.....I'll not accept that blackmail tactic. "I forgive you if you forgive me." Its that kind if thing i expect to hear from a 3 year old. I'll be your friend if you be mine. You hurt me so i will hurt you.

You will either forgive a person. Or you wont. If i choose to forgive or not is something you have no control over.

This appeal is not about me proving myself.

Its about you.

What I dont like is this very persistent, desperate, impatientnes you are clearly displaying. That attitude wont help your appeal.

You be patient. If you get unbanned, good. If you dont. You may have to wait. How long might you have to wait? Will depend on your attitude and behaviour as well as what the other staff decide. So be patient.

Dont go on about being unbanned, it will set you back further then you already are.

Unless you have something to add to my response above, and i dont mean for you to repeat to us what yourve already said, then dont reply and just wait.
 

coolkillz

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I'm sorry.
Ok, I forgive you.
Take your time, I'm so sorry, I wasn't ment to say that.
So sorry!
 

XxVulcan74xX

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You know i don't see how saying "I forgive you, you forgive me" he is trying to be nice, he wasn't meaning to be harsh, and you also have to consider. It is not a blackmail, from the dictionary, Blackmail means:"Blackmail is an act, often a crime, involving unjustified threats to make a gain or cause loss to another unless a demand is met."
To say this twas a blackmail, he would need to threaten you. well you get the point. you both were in the wrong. Sundust you, were calling coolkillz a "three year old" which is totally inappropriate in this situation. and well coolkillz greifed 170 blocks. that's a lot but he didn't know and last he is sincerely sorry. I dont know him, i stumbled upon his ban appeal, and i read he is sincerely sorry. you do have to give him the benefit of the doubt.
~Vulcan
 

yu1327

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I agree with XxVulcan74xX.
 

IshrkI

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Well Vulcan, you should go back and reread what he actually wrote. (hint: there's an "if" missing in your quote.)

And if you are not familiar with the concept of "emotional blackmail" I suggest you read up on that as well.

What Sun has done here is to spend a whole lot of time to help this guy adjust his attitude so that he can stay out of further trouble. It might look condescending but in reality she's doing him a huge favour.

Well. In the end it's all up to himself. If he just chooses to try to understand he will learn from this. :)
 

_SunDust_

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Yes vulcan, maybe blackmail was not the correct word to describe cools behaviour when she said
"I will forgive you IF you forgive me."

That word "if", as small a word as it is, holds great importance in her statement.

"Im only gonna forgive you IF you forgive me. IF you cant forgive me, ill not forgive you"

This is a very immature manipulative way of thinking. This is a person who chooses not accept responsibility for their own choices. But attempts to influence the behavior or emotions of others for one's own purposes or gain. Tis a selfish attitude.

"he is trying to be nice". No vulcan, sincere "nice" people dont use these tactics. They are concerned for the welfare of others then just their own selfish agendas.

"He wasnt meaning to be harsh". You say you dont know them, and I dont think you know them either, so I all I can say is this is an just assumption you have come to think.

Saying "I HAVE to consider", is something you have no control over. I dont HAVE to consider anything at all if I choose not to.

"Sundust you, were calling coolkillz a "three year old" which is totally inappropriate in this situation"
I was targetting the behaviour, not the person. Youre either gonna understand that or not, something i cant really do much about but to try and clarify things for your understanding.
It was directed at the intents of her statement, or, how she chose to behave.
It was not directed at cool as a "whole person" who is of great worth.

"Thats alot, but he didnt know". Alot of your statements in your response are based on assumptions. They hold no weight here but mere imaginations of the mind.

What you dont understand, is she made many conscious choices. "He didnt know", yet I explained clearly enough about giving her a plot to build in. I brought her to the residential area, showed her the farm she could use anytime she wanted just needed to replant. We had a restart of the server so I was unable yet to show her her plot. Its when I got back, shed built a dirt shack in the spawn of Kedron and continued to break the floor of the spawn and mine under it.

I would never do that. I would of had a look around the place, to see what was available, while I waited for sundust to come back, if she came back. I would never thought to destroy someones building and mine under it for my own purposes unless I was allowed.
I know enough that each block I place, is a conscious choice I make. I cannot say "I didnt know" when I know full well what I was doing. I dont think she understood how strict things are on the server about taking, breaking or building without prior permission from the owner of the build, area or items. But she does now, I think.

"You do have to give him the benefit of the doubt" again...... this is my choice, I dont have to give anything if I choose not to.

The maximum for a tempban is 1 week. This offence is a permanent one so it should be longer then 1 week.

Cool has shown she has sincerely apologised.

If coolkillz doesnt do anything to damage her status now, and with the approval of the owners, to have her ban lifted after 2 weeks from the date she was banned, which date would be saturday 16th August, 2014.
 

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Look at when they joined rb, Vulcan joined June, and YU joined August. Unless he supposevedly registered them the last day of June and the first day of August, so I don't believe your theory 
 

_SunDust_

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Yu and vulc are friends in real life. They confirmed this yesturday on the server. Besides it shows alot, vul joined, then helped his friend to get builder. And what a big fuss was made over getting builder.

But this appeal is not about them.
 

coolkillz

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I wasn't using the black mail tactic.
I was saying "If you forgive me, I'll forgive"
This obviously meant that if you were to forgive me (I thought you obviously were because you are nice) I would completely forgive you. I was saying this is because I was almost 100% positive that you would obviously forgive me. I didn't mean it like you said "If you forgive me, I'll forgive you".
So you were weren't going to forgive me? I said sorry, so you obviously would of accepted, then why would you decline this? and why would you respond to this "black mail tactic" if ALL I was clearing saying was "sorry" In general?
 

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coolkillz said:
I wasn't using the black mail tactic.
I was saying "If you forgive me, I'll forgive"
This obviously meant that if you were to forgive me (I thought you obviously were because you are nice) I would completely forgive you. I was saying this is because I was almost 100% positive that you would obviously forgive me. I didn't mean it like you said "If you forgive me, I'll forgive you".
So you were weren't going to forgive me? I said sorry, so you obviously would of accepted, then why would you decline this? and why would you respond to this "black mail tactic" if ALL I was clearing saying was "sorry" In general?
In order for an apology to be genuine, it should show real remorse, an understanding that you have done wrong (against your own better self, towards others), and should have no conditions pending. You forgive even if they do not. Should you never receive it back in return, you're sorry AND you forgive them. That's what you should look into, if you ask me.
 

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thank you so much for banning him. i greifed me a placed a crap house on MY LAWN.
 

_SunDust_

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We know coolkillz, but I think you've said all you need to say in your defence.

One thing about the appeal title, is you state the obvious. "Banned by SunDust"

This is correct and any play can figure that out by reading the report, and your appeal info.

The title of your appeal suggest the blame is on that terrible moderator SunDust, how dare she ban me. Unban me now!

When what your focus should be on, is you, being sorry for what you did.

It will do no harm to change your appeal title, so it fits how you feel about the ban now.

But leaving it like that...means you still blame me for what you did.
 
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